Sed erat aequius Triarium aliquid de dissensione nostra iudicare. Res enim se praeclare habebat, et quidem in utraque parte. Qua igitur re ab deo vincitur, si aeternitate non vincitur? Totum autem id externum est, et quod externum, id in casu est. Ergo illi intellegunt quid Epicurus dicat, ego non intellego? Ad corpus diceres pertinere-, sed ea, quae dixi, ad corpusne refers? Sed plane dicit quod intellegit. Quasi ego id curem, quid ille aiat aut neget. Ita fit cum gravior, tum etiam splendidior oratio. Eam stabilem appellas. Sit sane ista voluptas. Sin laboramus, quis est, qui alienae modum statuat industriae?

Nam Pyrrho, Aristo, Erillus iam diu abiecti. Non enim solum Torquatus dixit quid sentiret, sed etiam cur. Universa enim illorum ratione cum tota vestra confligendum puto. Experiamur igitur, inquit, etsi habet haec Stoicorum ratio difficilius quiddam et obscurius. Ego quoque, inquit, didicerim libentius si quid attuleris, quam te reprehenderim. Satis est ad hoc responsum. Quid ait Aristoteles reliquique Platonis alumni? Piso, familiaris noster, et alia multa et hoc loco Stoicos irridebat: Quid enim? Quid ad utilitatem tantae pecuniae?

Non dolere, inquam, istud quam vim habeat postea videro; Rapior illuc, revocat autem Antiochus, nec est praeterea, quem audiamus. Scaevola tribunus plebis ferret ad plebem vellentne de ea re quaeri. Nihil opus est exemplis hoc facere longius.

O magnam vim ingenii causamque iustam, cur nova existeret disciplina! Perge porro. Illum mallem levares, quo optimum atque humanissimum virum, Cn. Quid enim de amicitia statueris utilitatis causa expetenda vides. Primum quid tu dicis breve? Non enim, si malum est dolor, carere eo malo satis est ad bene vivendum. Quod ea non occurrentia fingunt, vincunt Aristonem; Non est igitur voluptas bonum. Addidisti ad extremum etiam indoctum fuisse. Universa enim illorum ratione cum tota vestra confligendum puto. Non autem hoc: igitur ne illud quidem.

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cuiusquam dies natalis. Sine ea igitur iucunde negat posse se vivere? Ex quo, id quod omnes expetunt, beate vivendi ratio inveniri et comparari potest. Quid enim necesse est, tamquam meretricem in matronarum coetum, sic voluptatem in virtutum concilium adducere? Longum est enim ad omnia respondere, quae a te dicta sunt. Et ille ridens: Video, inquit, quid agas; Bestiarum vero nullum iudicium puto.

Fortitudinis quaedam praecepta sunt ac paene leges, quae effeminari virum vetant in dolore. Istam voluptatem perpetuam quis potest praestare sapienti? Quasi ego id curem, quid ille aiat aut neget. Respondent extrema primis, media utrisque, omnia omnibus. Nam quid possumus facere melius? Apparet statim, quae sint officia, quae actiones. Fatebuntur Stoici haec omnia dicta esse praeclare, neque eam causam Zenoni desciscendi fuisse. Quae qui non vident, nihil umquam magnum ac cognitione dignum amaverunt. Quamquam te quidem video minime esse deterritum.

Illa videamus, quae a te de amicitia dicta sunt. Sed utrum hortandus es nobis, Luci, inquit, an etiam tua sponte propensus es? Eaedem enim utilitates poterunt eas labefactare atque pervertere. Sit hoc ultimum bonorum, quod nunc a me defenditur; Itaque mihi non satis videmini considerare quod iter sit naturae quaeque progressio. Nam memini etiam quae nolo, oblivisci non possum quae volo. Quae diligentissime contra Aristonem dicuntur a Chryippo. Inde sermone vario sex illa a Dipylo stadia confecimus. Quid ait Aristoteles reliquique Platonis alumni? Hoc loco tenere se Triarius non potuit.

Sequitur disserendi ratio cognitioque naturae; In quibus doctissimi illi veteres inesse quiddam caeleste et divinum putaverunt. Sed tu istuc dixti bene Latine, parum plane. Hic nihil fuit, quod quaereremus. Ergo instituto veterum, quo etiam Stoici utuntur, hinc capiamus exordium. Et quidem iure fortasse, sed tamen non gravissimum est testimonium multitudinis.

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